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      10 months ago

      Can’t you just put the bottles in the dishwasher?

      I won’t really worry about it until there is evidence that there is anything to really worry about.

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        The water never really gets up the straw properly and I’m not about to crack out a bottle brush and do it by hand. A nalgene will hold 1.5 litres and is hygienic.

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          Enjoying those endocrine suppressors? You definitely want aluminum, but Stanley isn’t the only way to do that. My wife got a pretty good Yeti with a pretty nice drinking spout, I think it’s the magdock?

          Either way, stop drinking out of plastic.

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            I had a little silver glass handed down as a child. Used it only for water. Don’t think that kind of thing can be afforded nowadays.


            What’s the problem with Ag?

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            I only carry water with me very rarely. like only when I go on long hikes. Even then, the spring water on those hikes is pretty good. I probably use a drinking bottle less than once a month.

            Besides aluminium leads to oxidative stress. There’s a reason you don’t see aluminium cookware in the shops.

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          10 months ago
          1. You can buy an isolated bottle without straws.
          2. Insulated bottles are very nice because they isolate the water.
          3. The potential bacteria obviously doesn’t really matter much anyways.
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            10 months ago

            I have a steel thermos for keeping my coffee hot, but I don’t see it being necessary to keep things cold. I usually only take water if I’m going somewhere without access to tap water or clean streams.

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              10 months ago

              Cold water is much nicer to drink and IMO much better than coffee.

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                  I live further north than most but not that close to the Arctic Circle (around 7-8 degrees further south), but it’s not like I have that cold inside, we insolate our homes. If you live in the ice hotel I guess you don’t need an isolated bottle (As long as you don’t expose it to negative for too long). IMO a bottle is just really convenient compared to a glass of water which is very limited in capacity.

                  The vast majority of humanity lives very far away from the Arctic. The Arctic is one of the most desolate places on earth. Only around 4 million or 0,05376% of humanity live above the Arctic circle.

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            10 months ago

            I have a steel thermos for keeping my coffee hot, but I don’t see it being necessary to keep things cold. I usually only take water if I’m going somewhere without access to tap water or clean streams.

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    You missed the best parts of his line. The full quote is:

    I used to be with ‘it’, but then they changed what ‘it’ was. Now what I’m with isn’t ‘it’ and what’s ‘it’ seems weird and scary to me. It’ll happen to you!"

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    They’re popular because some lady’s car caught fire and her Stanley cup survived virtually unscathed and it still had ice in it while the car was completely destroyed.

    Then the company saw that her video was viral and bought her a new car.

    I feel like that warrants their popularity right now.

    I personally prefer Hydroflask because it’s easier to carry around and I don’t care for a straw or side handle. But I see no reason to hate on these.

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      The funny thing about that is that it could’ve been any properly made thermal cup in that place and results would be pretty similar. So it was pure luck that Stanley not some other brand got such big ad

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    Thermos culture is weird/cringe. Everyone circle jerking their $100 water bottle, trying to outdue each other.

    We get it you drink water.

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      I don’t get it. Why is it weird?

      I purchased a sigg stainless steel for less than 20$. If has served me for 4 years, full of dents on the bottom, and still going strong.

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        The weird obsession with Stanley cups and people buying 1 for each outfit they have. Like people having fucking 30 of the damn things. Or the literal riots and mobs for the pink Starbucks Stanley cups. Capitalism makes us all stupid.

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          I’m with you, I don’t get the draw - I’m not a fan of the clutter it would cause but whatever floats their boat, it’s not sinking mine :P.

          I feel like it’s the same as collecting shoes or purses - fashion/collecting just of something else. The abe meme is spot on.

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          So? I have multiple for sizes depending on if I’m drinking coffee or water or if I’m on the go or if I can’t find filtered or if I need back up water on a long trip. So that’s all it takes to make a person mad? Then I think outrage over something dumb makes people stupid.

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      Technically, the Nalgene in the picture is the revised Tritan BPA-free design. But your point still stands. BPA or not, the less plastic touches my food and drink, the better.

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        Tritan plastics are used in labratory environments, I feel like we would have heard something if it was leeching anything. The high usage rate in those environments are what gives me faith in the product.

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    I don’t really get what this Stanley trend is, can someone explain it to me? I don’t think I interact with the portions of the net where a bottle trend would spread.

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      10 months ago

      People paying way too much money for absurdly large cups because “influencers” told them to.

      Don’t get me wrong. If someone wants one of those things, they can go right ahead. Not my business. But, every day I watch my 15 year old get out of the car and carry one of those things into school with her and all I can think is that it seems like a glass of water that markets inconvenience as a feature.

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        10 months ago

        Wife has one of the giant Frank Green waterbottles. Goes through 3 or 4 of them a day at work and bedside.

        Beats the hell out if the three giant energy drinks she used to have.

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    As much as I like Stanley’s thermos’ - I own 3 of them. One is 50+ years old and still has the silvered glass flask inside that is sealed with a real cork, the other 2 have the stainless flask. The glass flask one is very fragile if dropped. The “newer” ones have been beaten like rented mules and still work like new. One fell off the tailgate of my pickup on bounced down a gravel road and I ran the other one over with a disc while doing spring field work. The hot stays hot and the cold stays cold all day.

    The old glass model I inherited. The other 2 I bought. The newest one is a bit over 25 years old and cost me $40 new. But I don’t get the $100 cups. I have had an enameled stainless 12oz $10 knockoff for 2 years now and it works very well. It keeps my tea hot while I’m sitting on the ice of a frozen lake and fishing for at nearly an hour at a time.

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      Don’t Stanley Cups become lead poisoned if damaged? In opposition to almost every single other thermos…

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        There has never been any proof that it has ever happened. Like a lot information floating around out there, there is no real proof.

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      They’re fine. Stanley has made perfectly decent, tough thermos products for a century. The green coffee thermos has been a staple for decades.

      My biggest fear of this craze is that it’ll kill the company when the fad ends and their stock drops and they get bought out by Chinese conglomerate number 8762.

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    I still prefer nalgene bottles. They’re cheap, indestructible, dishwasher safe, and aren’t a pound of loud metal to carry around when empty.

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        They’ve been BPA free since 2008… So… Plus I’ve heard they’re finding lead leaching into water from vacuum sealed metal bottles. Can’t win.

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          Can you link anything for lead getting into the water? I’d be interested. Everything I’ve read about it (with respect to the Stanleys) says it’s virtually impossible to be in contact with any lead containing bit unless you’ve purposely damaged the bottom and are basically licking it. One of the quoted experts was says depending on where you are in the US, your tap water is a much more likely vector of lead exposure.

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            I can’t, I’ve heard it in passing, so very well might’ve just been some doomer bullshit or sensationalizing the facts. It seems that it’d be unnecessary for them to use lead at all in the creation of a drinking implement, but I’m no material scientist. I guess I’ll have to look into it more.

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              I mean, plastic is not the only thing you can make a bottle out of. Metal or glass could be appropriate options, perhaps.

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                Glass breaks, metal has the aforementioned lead problems. I shall create a water pouch from the bladder of a steer.

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                  It shouldn’t be that hard to figure out if there’s lead in a metal bottle I think, but I see your point for sure. It can be hard to find non-terrible stuff.

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                  Glass is much better because it has no taste. I would expect people to care about that if they use it all day. How often do you break a glass bottle? That’s the thickness of glass you need.

                  My grandfather has a glass Gatorade bottle he still reuses. That’s the kind of shit I expect from today’s hipsters. Do they even retro bro?

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                  I’m a big fan of the single wall stuff. It works pretty well for water carrying at least. For hot and cold stuff you could always add a cozy. Certainly not as effective but no lead!

                  On the other hand, I dream of the day when I make my own wax lined leather bottle like the days of old

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      never mind the bpa when there’s the microplastics issue.

      Besides: Most recent food grade plastics are BPA free now.

      most travel drinking vessels (even metal) should be replaced every 10-20 yrs. Plastic even sooner than that (2-5). And if you have any deep scratches or visible on a surface(even metal) it should definitely be replaced immediately.

      I don’t trust the plastic vessels anymore because they should be replaced because of microplastics. Whenever you twist a plastic cap on something with an internal helix, you’re grinding more microplastics into your drinking liquid. Try to get the screw tops that have the helix on the outside and a silicon seal to have a barrier.

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    What people don’t talk enough about the cup trend is that people aren’t even drinking water out of them. The new thing is to gaslight yourself into thinking you’re drinking water by mixing high fructose corn syrup drink mix into their water. It’s chemically different but somehow people think they’re doing their bodies a favor by drinking soda 60oz at a time.

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        No, they use artificially sweetened syrups that have “0 calories” to make flavored and colored “water”. Some will violently defend that it is still water because there aren’t any calories. Even though they added all the flavors, colors, and sweeteners, just no carbonation. Basically flat coke zero but in tons of schizophrenic flavor name and neon color combos. It’s a weird world of cope.

        Be thankful my comment is the only level of awareness you’ll be about this. Do not look into this deeper, there is nothing good to be found. Forget this and return to your life. This will be your only warning.

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          Ya know some people just don’t like drinking something “flavorless” 24/7…

          While it may not be as “healthy” as drinking just water, it’s like 98-99% water, and as you said, it’s zero calories so it’s far better for you than soda and fruit juice which has a fuckload of sugar/HFCS in it.

          It looks like HydroHomies is leaking…

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              Imagine thinking you are superior because you said the word tea, as if tea isn’t a famously high profile drink in the United States.

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_tea

              Seriously as an American, I don’t know a single person who doesn’t drink some type of tea.

              Y’all can keep downvoting, but iced tea and sweet tea are both hugely important cultural drinks in the United States, so implying that Americans haven’t heard of tea is just wrong.

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                Their point is *water is healthy because it doesn’t contain any additives". Then the Brit popped in with the Tea idea and they put far less sugar in their tea, if they put any in.

                Us 'Muricans need ten pounds of sugar in everything in order for it to be palatable, so a Sweet Tea and store bought teas are loaded with sugar/HFCS.

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      Where are people getting HFCS drink mixes? Are you talking about the sodastream type bottles of mix? I only ever see people with the artificially sweetened tiny squirt bottles of flavoring. Which, healthy or not is up for debate but they’ve gotta be better than 150% of your sugar for the day in liquid form from HFCS/soda (in whatever container).