• Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    31 minutes ago

    A lot of places in east asia have red light timers. If theres nobody coming, people will start when theres like 3 seconds left.

  • Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    1 hour ago

    I saw someone do that in Korea. The guy in front immediately stops the car and sits there for like 2 minutes as the guy behind honks and eventually does like a 7 point turn to go around.

  • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    1 hour ago

    In Spain you would have to wait for 5-10 seconds without moving for anyone to honk. At least where I live. People just don’t usually get angry about it. I don’t expect anyone to stare at the red light like it’s a race track. Maybe someone is adjusting the radio, maybe they are putting on sunglasses. I mean, I don’t care, I can arrive 5 seconds later. 99% of drivers here think the same.

    I once worked with a British guy here. He drove me somewhere couple of times and he would always complain at how long Spanish drivers take to start when light changes. He crashed and totaled his car soon after. Slipped on a slightly wet asphalt and went out of the road. For me it’s typical that the worse drivers are the impatient ones. Just relax, it’s not a race.

  • pedz@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    12
    ·
    7 hours ago

    Yes, green means go!11! Even there’s an old lady that just didn’t finish crossing yet, she just had to do it in the few seconds allowed.

    My favorite one is people honking at other drivers for not blocking an intersection because “it’s green!”. I don’t know the term in English but in French it’s a mix of intersection and blocage. Like, if the light is green but there is no space to advance because of gridlock, some apparently like to make it worse by advancing their car in an intersection and sit there while it turns red, and thus blocking the intersection. BuT It WaS GreEn!

  • ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    9 hours ago

    Physicists have discovered that the shortest division of time possible is the time between the light turning green and the car behind you honking.

      • Evil_Shrubbery@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        1 hour ago

        Actually the drivers should consider the distances of cars to the traffic lights in relation to the speed of light and sound in the surrounding air - it would be more optimal if the waiting driver would start honking a bit earlier than the green light turns on so that the honk sound would reach the slow driver at the time the light from the green light reaches them.
        (It just isn’t optimal to wait the green light to pass two or more cars & then the additional wait time for the slow sound to reach the driver holding up the line in the front.)

  • GroundedGator@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    11
    ·
    12 hours ago

    I live in an area where I think the worst drivers in the US live. I absolutely hate people who honk as soon as the light turns green. You don’t know what I can see, you don’t know if it is safe to go. Because sometimes it isn’t. I’ve had to learn to still look both ways after the light turns green because almost once a week (and I only drive 2-4 days most weeks) I see someone completely blow the red going 60 in a 45.

    I also blame phones for traffic, because it goes the other way too. Why did you miss that green, because 3 people in front of you were on their phones. I usually give a slow 5 count before giving a beep.

  • NateNate60@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    36
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    edit-2
    16 hours ago

    While it is rude to honk immediately when the light turns green, it is also true that taking too long to accelerate when the light changes severely reduces traffic flow and causes congestion. And this is commonly caused by distracted drivers. You are supposed to release your brake and begin moving at roughly the same time as the car in front of you, i.e. when the car in front of you turns off their brake lights or when the traffic signal turns green if you’re in the front.

    Edit: “Too long” realistically means anything more than half a second. If everyone’s reaction time was one second it would reduce the number of cars per green light probably by half. That doesn’t mean it’s polite to honk after half a second but if your reaction time is that bad you should not be driving.

  • deegeese@sopuli.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    82
    arrow-down
    15
    ·
    edit-2
    18 hours ago

    How often does this happen?

    Sounds like you’re one of those idiots who’s on their phone during a red light and needs the car behind you to provide a wake up call.

    • kn33@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      9 hours ago

      It happens a lot in NYC. The couple times I took an Uber somewhere instead of the subway, the driver seemed to always be on the horn.

    • otacon239@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      26
      ·
      16 hours ago

      I’ve had this happen at least a few times. Each time it was because someone was in the crosswalk they couldn’t see and thought I was just being a dumbass.

    • kubica@fedia.io
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      17
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      17 hours ago

      Eh, I’ve seen it happen too, more than once. To be staring at the traffic light behind a line of cars and hear someone in front honk immediately when the light turned green. It is ridiculous.

    • stoy@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      16 hours ago

      I missed the change of the first traffic light I stopped at when I had just bought my first car, I had stopped so the light was hidden behind my rearview mirror, got a deserved honk

    • Bosht@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      16 hours ago

      Yup. Every time I see a post like this I know exactly who it is.

  • lime!@feddit.nu
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    22
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    15 hours ago

    i will never understand why us traffic lights go immediately from red to green. you have a whole-ass third light to use for signaling that the light is about to change, so people don’t have to floor it due to an unexpected change.

      • psud@aussie.zone
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        14 hours ago

        You don’t need to do a lot of enforcement to change that behaviour. And you can do the enforcement with red light cameras

        • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          edit-2
          10 hours ago

          Red light and/or speed cameras are banned in many parts of the US, because courts have repeatedly ruled that they’re unconstitutional. The constitution’s sixth amendment guarantees the right to argue against your accuser in court. This was originally intended to prevent secret surprise court rulings, which the British used against Americans leading up to and during the revolution; The crown would accuse people of crimes and try them without any notice. When they obviously failed to show up to court, they were found guilty in absentia and arrested.

          Regional courts have repeatedly banned the cameras, by ruling that because people can’t argue against an inanimate object, the object can’t accuse people of crimes. Basically, the constitution says you have the right to get your day in court, and some courts have interpreted that to mean the automated cameras violate that right.

          • Domi@lemmy.secnd.me
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            4 hours ago

            That’s weird. Isn’t the accuser in that case the police or whoever is in charge of those cameras? The camera just provides evidence, doesn’t it?

            • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              3
              ·
              edit-2
              4 hours ago

              Isn’t the accuser in that case the police or whoever is in charge of those cameras?

              If it were a cop pulling you over and writing a ticket, sure. It would be that cop. They can show up in court and stand as a witness for you to cross-examine. But if the entire system is automated, which specific cop is the accuser?

              • Domi@lemmy.secnd.me
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                4 hours ago

                Is the system completely automated in the US? We still have people from that department going through each picture, checking if there is indeed a violation. That person will then type out your license plate and a letter is sent to you.

                If you pay, it’s done. If you don’t pay you will have to show up to court and make your case, while they will show up with that picture and date/time as proof.

                The accuser in that case is the person that read the license plate from the picture.

        • NateNate60@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          12 hours ago

          In many localities voters have used initiative powers to ban red light cameras and in some jurisdictions red-light camera fines are deemed constitutional violations because the US Constitution requires those accused of crimes to be able to “confront their accuser” in court which is not possible if the accuser is a machine.

    • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      12
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      edit-2
      13 hours ago

      That’s because practically nobody here drives a car with a manual transmission, and the reason for those in Europe is (or originally was) to give drivers notice when they need to get back into gear.

      A knock-on consequence of this is that nobody in the US knows how to drive, they just point the wheel vaguely in some direction and mash the skinny pedal. If they don’t get the result they wanted, they stomp on the pedal harder. You ought to watch chucklefucks try to drive in the snow, especially those with SUVs and muscle cars with rear wheel drive. People treat the throttle as if it’s the “make the car go in the direction I’m looking button” and the rest of us know that’s not how it works.

  • FelixCress@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    12
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    14 hours ago

    Do you see this little pedal under your right foot? Just fucking use it and nobody will be honking.

  • teslasaur@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    39
    arrow-down
    16
    ·
    17 hours ago

    Get off the phone you fucking imbecil. Stop making people’s days any worse than they need to be.

    • MotoAsh@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      13
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      edit-2
      16 hours ago

      Do you not understand what, “the second the light turns green” means?

      • gnu@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        10
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        9 hours ago

        That phrase tends to be much less literal when its said by those who are getting honked at regularly to move off from the lights.

        If someone is telling you they get honked at all the time for no reason there usually is a reason (or several) and they just refuse to acknowledge what they’re doing.

        • pedz@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          7 hours ago

          Not in Canada and I believe also not in the US. The yellow only comes before red, not before green.

          Here it’s red, green, yellow, red, green, yellow…

        • MotoAsh@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          5
          ·
          13 hours ago

          Some intersections you cannot see the cross-traffic signals. Some intersections don’t have much cross-traffic to watch, either.

          Interesting how you’re taking the asshole’s side, though.

    • Lag@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      13
      arrow-down
      5
      ·
      17 hours ago

      It’s natural to take a second before taking off, either unintentionally or intentionally due to safety. Maybe leave on time to account for those extra few seconds that they are holding you up.

      • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        13
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        16 hours ago

        It’s not only natural, it’s a good idea. Especially if you are crossing a large road.

        I ride a motorcycle more often than not (see user name) and it’s vital to ensure that the cross traffic is actually stopping when their light is red. You aren’t “protected” because your light is green, and there’s nothing physically stopping any asshole blowing the light and ramming into the side of you, probably without slowing down in the slightest first. That’s because they’re also staring at their phone. I can’t even go a week anymore without watching some moron sail straight through a red light right in front of me such that if I hadn’t spotted them first they would have run me over. And it’s happening more and more often as drivers are more distracted than ever before. A couple of years ago I’d only see this sort of thing once every few months.

  • nthavoc@lemmy.today
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    8
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    14 hours ago

    Honk at immediate green warrants a very slooooooow take off. Bonus points if they spin out into a utility pole to get around you.

    • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      edit-2
      10 hours ago

      If you truly want to be petty, sit until it’s a late yellow before you go. They’ll be stuck at the red. I wouldn’t do it if there’s anyone stuck behind the honker, but if it’s just the two of you then it’s an easy way to be very petty. It’ll piss some people off so badly that they’ll be liable to run the red.

    • Gustephan@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      14 hours ago

      Ever seen a Japanese sports car go from 0 to 6 in 15 seconds? Honk at me when I’m on the line and the light just turned green and I’ll show you

  • rabber@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    7
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    15 hours ago

    Never happened to me before. Light goes green and I go. Why is driving so difficult for people