Women like confidence and power. Or more precisely, absolutely everybody likes confidence and power, but women are just more up front about it.
It beats the hell out of, “well today I inched my way along the tunnels of consumption and servitude, sucked a little dominance fantasy, hope I die soon…”.
“people like charisma, presumably because it’s something we’ve evolved in order to connect with each other on a more personal level”
FTFY
i’m not fixing the topic posting, you’ll have to explain that one yourself still.
Please, tell us more.
Base on that article basically every woman assumes men are killers and rapist. No wonder online dating always sucked. So glad I don’t do that anymore.
Guess you can’t date in the real world no more either approach a woman a bar you better have a full background check ready for them.
It’s ok. We’re doing fine without you.(and I don’t think it’s the women with the problem you’re having)
Don’t worry dude, nobody wants to date you anyways :)
What article it’s a fucking comic strip…
There’s an article linked in the post text
Yeah I missed that, didn’t realize it was a link. Went back to fix.
I assumed it was the link to the source of the strip. That’s a totally reasonable assumption
Media standards have been dropping lately…
Not saying i agree with this guy, but the link to the guardian article is right there in the post description.
Oh shit you’re right, I didn’t realize the post description was a hyperlink, going back to fix my last post.
You only ever look at the pictures, hey?
Green is not normally registered as a hyperlink when I browse, so sue me.
Alright, I’ll see you in court pal.
I fell into the true crime podcast hole once. I’m never climbing back in again.
Why, and why?
Because I needed something to listen to and it sounded interesting, especially the idea of getting inside the mind of the killer. And the other why is essentially it got depressing, experiencing the horrors of humanity, and so I stopped.
Adventure Time lore is far more complex than any true crime 😤
Also much dark… No Gunter no !
I literally watched that episode yesterday lol
Please forgive me for, whatever I do
When I don’t remember you
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“When bad things happen, I know you want to believe they are a joke, but sometimes life is scary and dark. That is why we must find the light.”
Women are obsessed with true crime because we feel vulnerable, and so learning about it helps to hone our instincts to avoid dangerous situations. There’s almost always some warning sign that people ignored and they ended up getting murdered. There’s nothing wrong with true crime used as a cautionary tale. Are children sick because they read fairy tales about wolves eating grandmothers or witches cooking and eating children? Of course not. It’s the same thing.
You try to learn how to read people by watching true crime TV shows?
That’s really counterproductive.
No, you learn to recognize red flags from real life examples and make the right choices if you’re ever in that situation.
You’re learning red flags from a dramatization of an interpretation of a perhaps-real situation used to sell advertising. Do you think it really reflects things you should use to judge people and situations?
Not all true crime are dramatizations… there are a million YouTube shows out there that show you the exact footage, go over the exact details, etc…
Shoutout to That Chapter!
Do you also do medical research on Facebook?
Well she’s right about one thing, and that’s that true crime is as realistic and useful as a fairy tale lol.
Like come on, let’s be real: We watch true crime out of morbid curiosity and because the shows are entertaining. That’s fine! IDK why some people try to launder their interest in true crime as some sort of “research” to protect themselves.
Because no matter what you like and for whatever reason you will always get shit on both here on the internet and IRL. So we’ve all normalized having to defend our opinions.
I think it helps separate you from the victims. If you feel that you wouldn’t have made the same mistakes as the people who went and got murdered, then it feels a lot less like something that might happen to you.
As long you don’t get hyper sensitive to the signs. You could end up overthinking any little sign when it could mean nothing.
For a lot of folks, being a bit more anxious all the time or missing out on a good thing is worth not being victimized. I don’t know if people are actually less likely to be victimized but I think plenty feel that it helps.
Isn’t this the opening line from “Only murders in the building”?
Is it? Neat! Good show, but it’s been awhile since I saw it last.
Nice username.
Something something women are taught to hold keys between each finger just to walk out to their own car at night.
Meanwhile dudes: gonna walk to the store and get some ice cream at midnight yum yum.
ME: I say… take me out.
I always kinda wondered whether or not holding keys between your fingers would actually do anything if you punched someone, beyond just make them even more mad, especially as most people are not really trained in how to properly punch someone. I get the sense that a lot of other forms of self-defense would probably be better than that.
Maybe but keys are already convenient and no training. it’s about immediate options of a weapon. Still : the take away is that women have to think about these things a lot more than men which is very fucked up. So maybe give women a break if they are gonna be interested in something that eats up their existence this much as a form of anxiety. They wanna be safe. They want to understand the whale in their life. Can’t blame a person for that.
One thing i’ve learned over time, is that there is always a “warning sign” but often times in hindsight, that becomes obvious.
Most of the time you should assume the worst from everyone in every possible situation if you want to stay safe. The only common denominator here is people trusting other people enough to be put in bad situations. (yes i realize not everything is like that, but that doesn’t apply in this context so give me that one for free)
Lol. Hey, you know women aren’t allowed to have an opinion about _why they like a TV show _without being subjected to a bunch of patronizing comments. /s
But I think that’s a a good take, I’ve always wondered why people like true crime so much.
Same. It makes sense in it providing a sense of control over the potential situation.
How someone else can just come in and say your personal reaction to something is wrong seems pretty disrespectful.
They can have a different takeaway, but that does not make your opinion invalid.
Are children sick because they read fairy tales about wolves eating grandmothers or witches cooking and eating children? Of course not. It’s the same thing.
Tbf, kids don’t normally seek out those stories. They were created by adults to scare children.
They wouldn’t be so popular if kids didn’t like them.
They’re popular because scary stories are a very effective method of getting children to obey. Just look at religion.
They aren’t popular though. Modern kids don’t want to hear Hansel and Gretel, they want to watch Bluey. Because what kid wants to hear about a couple of German kids getting lured by a cannibal and eaten?
How the hell is bluey so universally liked by kids tho what is the illusive secret sauce to it that the kids can’t resist watching it
It’s a colourful dog, of course kids like watching it. Every generation has a colourful dog.
Nuclear family does wonders
Seriously when will they finally cut the filler and make that bomb that they have been teasing.
I’ve sat through 2 murder trials and between the testimony and pictures I can confidently say I’m really not interested in the detailed reality of horrific murders.
But to each their own, I guess.
Will don’t leave us hanging like that, did they convict you or are you planning for number 3?
Was the typo plotting? Please tell me it was plotting.
Sexist garbage. I’m a woman and i would run a mile from anyone into true crime. It’s creepy as hell.
question, out of curiosity. Because i just can’t help but get myself killed here (the irony i know)
Who are those people you would run from? Men, Women? Anybody period?
Anybody. I also hate horror movies. I know humans are violent assholes, i don’t understand the enjoyment people get out of it.
All of my girlfriends are into true crime and I just don’t get it. I tried it out, got sad, decided it wasn’t for me.
My wife claims its so women can learn patterns to look out for.
Aka, I learned how to detect signs about criminals when being verbally told about those signs up front after learning about them in huge investigations from serial killers who were caught…
Not even the 2,100 estimated serial killers that aren’t caught…
Simple fact is if someone wants to lie to you, more than likely you’ll believe it lol. Just one of the many things we have to believe to keep society running and ourselves from freaking out daily.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_impression_(psychology)
the only patterns to look out for are giving people your trust.
Trust no one, and nothing. That is your best chance.
Beyond that, engage in excessive paranoia. You probably shouldn’t do that, and should just establish a methodology of behavior that minimizes potential impact instead (i.e. dont do something that is likely to get you killed)
Yeah, I’m a woman fascinated by true crime. Watching/listening/reading about it just helps me to feel more… aware of how shit can go down. For example, a couple was murdered after a man snuck in behind their car as they pulled into their garage. He was caught on servalience camera, dressed in all black with his face covered. You can watch him very clearly as he easily slips in before the garage door closes. Once that door closed, that couple were goners.
You bet your ass I make damn sure no one has snuck into my garage before I close the door.
Like, obviously you’ll never be able to catch everything, or be so watchful that nothing ever happens to you, but I just feel a lot better knowing what to look out for.
I also love watching interrogation breakdowns, because if I’m ever in a situation where I’m being interrogated, I want to make damn sure I know how to protect myself.
So basically yeah, your wife is correct.
as for interrogations, literally just don’t talk to the police, you aren’t legally required to do so, at least here in america you aren’t.
You kind of do though.
You have to actively implement your fifth amendment, right.
In plane clear, articulate language.
One guy said “I want my lawyer, dog.” and the judge rule that that didn’t count.
The police are not your friends, they are people that you should see to interact with as little as humanly possible in your life.
The cops are not coming to you as friends. Ever!!!
I’m not going to say that your neighbor who happens to be a cop is the same as this.
Personally, I would treat them as such, with respect and distance, but your situation may be different.
Just remember, Neighbor Frank and Officer Hernandez are very different people.
But anytime they’re in uniform for sure, they are not your friends.
Even if you call them, they are still trained to assume that you might be the suspect, and to be suspicious of everyone.
this tbh. As for the guy that said he wanted his lawyer, im guessing he continued to talk to the police? There’s his problem. Don’t talk to them. Simple as.
I don’t know, probably though.
Like, if you’re going to say the phrase, I want my lawyer dog, you’re probably gonna keep on talking to the police
Yeah, it’s easy to say it, but not so easy in practice, especially when they can lie to your face.
i guess it depends? But honestly it’s not that hard. You can literally just ignore them. Or you can ask to leave, or you can ask for a lawyer. You have options.
Just like everything else. It’s easy when it’s not happening to you.
unless they’re beating you and torturing you, which is not something they’re allowed to do here. You’d have to be pretty stupid to miss that opportunity.
My ex-wife claimed it was to learn how to kill me.
Aqua Tefata
Congratulations on your survival and escape!
Still too early to tell.
She might be Canadian, we might never know
Best tip for killing someone is to wait so long after ever interacting with them that no-one would believe you have motive. That’s also the best tip for not following through, as its really difficult to hold onto a grudge for so long under changing circumstances.
TL;DR: Yes, its too early to tell.
Woman: So when you’re not swiping, what do you do?
Men 1-7: It sounds weird, but I’m really into WAR! … Christoph Waltz was sooo creepy as Hans Landa! You have to see it! … so each week both uncredentialled “historians” talk about their favorite times when thousands of men stabbed or shot each other! … and then the good guy took his gun-knife and started prying teeth and slicing ears off the dead guys… literally an entire generation of men was decimated or psychologically damaged… But [Game of Thrones/The Walking Dead/Band of Brothers] is my go-to. What do you watch?
Woman: Mostly cartoons.
More seriously, I’d guess that many, maybe even most people have some level of morbid fascination with the type of violent, high stakes scenarios that people they identify with have been subject to. It’s just kind of weird not to acknowledge that a lot of basically well-adjusted men (I flatter myself that I’m in that group) are into stuff that’s objectively terrifying.
My interest in war is that there is nothing higher stakes, it can be a fight for the survival of not just yourself but your family, community, or nation, or even our species if we are talking fiction (or global warming).
So if we were to stereotype the genders, men are typically more interested in death/violence at a humanitary level and women at a personal level.
You go into it thinking that, but then when the deification hits the oscillation, it ends up being about two things: 1) your own ass and 2) your battle buddies you deployed with.
Yeah I wasn’t talking about either scenario from a participatory POV. Moreso speaking to the general interest.
You can be interested in something without wishing for it or wanting to participate. I’m sure women who listen to serial killer podcasts don’t want to be featured in one.
I was, but it was more wanting to share something about the experience rather than start a fight about it.
My apologies if it read that way.
Oh yeah, I was just clarifying my original position. I appreciate your insight.
Wow what a polite exchange on an often hot button topic!
Lemmy is wild. It’s like seeing old forums or IRC again.
Definitely adding “when the deification hits the oscillation” to my vernacular.
uncredentialled “historians”
Point of order. What credentials do you need to talk about history? Is there, like, a history license I don’t know about? Or are you just talking about a particular degree?
You forgot to mention the Roman Empire
I’m only interested in the Roman Emperor, Marcus Aurelius because of his meditations. The things he wrote down for just himself to see are some of the most humbling passages I’ve ever come across. The exception to the rule that absolute power corrupts absolutely. A god to his people who paid a peasant to whisper in his ear to remind him he was just a man. Rome experienced a time of peace and prosperity under his rule without needless wars of conquest.
He was a good man and I aspire to be more like him.
I’m pretty sad Rome got co opted to be like a weird right ideology. I read the Percy Jackson books growing up so I’ve always been fascinated with ancient Greece and Rome.
Oppressive military dictatorship that really likes their military is idolized by wannabe oppressive military dictators who really like their millitary? Who’d have thought?
Oh, also the deep ties to cristianity and fascism. Inquisitions and crusades are exactly the legacy they’re after.
Said oppressive military dictatorship was also way more socialist than anything we have today.
Not sure what the point of linking a Wikipedia page for a basic fact everyone learns in 3rd grade is.
Socialism is at some point on the scale of private property is collectively managed, therefore advancing towards a classless society. A society with slaves, by definition, cannot be socialist.
I’ll shit talk the Empire all day but the Inquisitions and Crusades aren’t on them.
I suppose that’s fair, but there are a number of alarming things done in the name of the empire, especially after it fell. The whole latin influence on Europe was a net negative in my opinion. However, I can agree that blaming them for what happened later is a bit harsh.
I’m pretty sad Rome got co opted to be like a weird right ideology
Rome was think with right wing ideology for much of it’s history.
A great deal of our understanding of fascism in the modern area comes from Roman histories
I think people are interested with the extremes of the human experience in general because that’s where the toughest choices and emotions come to light
Dan Carlin??
Yep! When he said that it made a lot of genres make sense
Exactly
You didn’t have to call me out like that
It’s almost as if people are drawn to and fascinated by taboo topics, and one’s experiences and upbringing determine the relationship with those taboos a person has.
Serial killers disproportionately target women, and women have personal experiences with creepy/dangerous men – it’s not really surprising “true crime” type media is popular with women.
Replace the last frame with “Mostly TNG” and this is a scary accurate boiled down representation of Lemmy.
That or “mostly Linux,” and you’ve got me.
I know TNG as The Naked Gun but I’ve never run into any TNG references on lemmy… Could it mean something else here or did I just miss out?
Maybe Star Trek: The Next Generation?
I assume this implies that there is more than one star trek, good to know
You are a weird creature that I wish to vivasect to find out how you exist.
That… Sounds unpleasant.
I’ll be back in the closet
Have you lived in a vaccuum all your life?
Man, that would suck.
I just don’t know anyone who watches star trek, it was that show that was on when there were no cartoons on rtl 2 and that’s all I know… So I never got sucked into it. Purple suits, bald guy, people with wavy foreheads, and there’s the moderator of x factor. But I can tell it apart for star wars so that’s something I guess (not that I am much more knowledgeable when it comes to star wars).
We do but I also love cartoons
all women, is that you?
Hmmmm…I did say i like cartoons… checks. Yup. I did own that one possessively. So nope. The person you’re looking for is not here.
I dunno. Woman, giving an opinion…I think that qualifies as “all women” on the internet. Sorry, I know, heavy is the head.
So just stating I like comics or me acknowledging I’m a woman? I’m apologizing for none of this. Go find yourself a real reason to pick a fight.
woah there. It was very clearly a joke about how women sharing their opinions on the internet is usually used against women and portrayed as “women are saying…” The internet has a bad problem with generalizing and painting all women as a monolith. That was the joke. I thought it was clear, but maybe not.
It could easily be read as sarcastic. In normal times, I don’t think that interpretation would be common, but in the internet of today, the toxicity is just so high it’s often the correct interpretation.
I’m a woman. I understood it as a joke. You’re okay.
Why does it seem like women are obsessed with murder? 😅
The most recent contrapoints video touched on it in ways that I hadn’t considered as a woman towards the end. But it’s a dense 3 hour video
I usually watch hour long retrospectives on games while I’m lying in bed, so I wouldn’t mind watching it if you can provide the video link! :)
Enjoy it’s the best video I’ve seen on the topic of twilight, most never even touch on Taoism.
Thank you! I’ll try to watch it when I’m lying down today!
Because they are.
Well, as a man it seems that we men are really into war, which is just “justified” mass murder.
Like, team death match, battle Royale, MOBA, strategy, etc.
One could of course argue that we don’t make it as creepy as we just play fantasy video game scenarios, but how many here have played Battlefield or any other war game based on historical events?
i mean, im into war in the sense of logistics and strategy, to some degree. I like the mechanics that are involved, and the structures that are at play in the system.
The rest of it is awful.
I am not into war, explosions, cars, or most things your typical man would be into. But a majority of the women I know, do like murder docs, murder podcasts, and always have little tidbits of murder knowledge. 😅
This person made a pretty good video essay on the topic. They theorize among other things that its a sort of way to mentally prepare themselves in case they’re in the same situation.
Contrapoints talked about this in her last vid, really interesting stuff!
So they like cartoons with lots of murder?
