• Lord_ToRA@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    10 months ago

    Holy shit. People have legit asked me this question. Although, I’m an IT professional and they didn’t jump to that question just from building a PC.

      • aksdb@lemmy.world
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        10 months ago

        In the U.S. it already counts as hacking when you scrape data… so yeah, sure.

      • Lord_ToRA@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        10 months ago

        I can guarantee you that someone in the Facebook HQ has their password on a sticky note. I bet they even think having it stuck under their keyboard means it’s hidden.

    • Ephera@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      10 months ago

      When I got asked that once, I told them they should bring me their laptop. 10 minutes tops and I’ll have access to their files. They really didn’t know, if I was bluffing or not.

      (I wasn’t. The average laptop is genuinely that badly secured.)

      • cm0002@lemmy.world
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        10 months ago

        Lol Windows user password is the digital equivalent of a pad lock, it only keeps honest people honest lmfaoo

        • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
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          10 months ago

          Local accounts, yes. How are you bypassing Microsoft accounts with 2 factor authentication enabled? Unix and Mac passwords were the same for local accounts before.

          Easiest way right now would be to acquire a username password to get into their phone provider, say Verizon. Then log into their Verizon account and move their phone number to a new phone. (this will only require knowledge of their security questions, also a phone not purchased by a card or registered to you if you don’t want it traceable)

          Once done then you can reset the password using the unknown password to their Microsoft account using the 2 factor that sends to their phone number…maybe.

          Especially on windows 11 we don’t stand much of a chance getting passed.

          Likely easier to pick up the password book they wrote all of their passwords down in and accessing them. (Performed by most people over 50 I know)

          Edit: also, you will find their Facebook password written there haha

          • cm0002@lemmy.world
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            10 months ago

            Assuming bitlocker isn’t enabled (Which it probably isn’t since it’s still not default yet AFAIK) boot Linux live USB > access files under user folder on disk

            • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
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              10 months ago

              Bitlocker is enabled by default, requiring tpm. Which internal tpm is used by most all devices. Also you won’t get into any commercial devices as the bios will be locked by password, so booting by USB will not happen.

              Source: Microsoft, “On supported devices running Windows 10 or newer BitLocker will automatically be turned on the first time you sign into a personal Microsoft account (such as @outlook.com or @hotmail.com) or your work or school account.”

              Alt source: I have spent years working for DOD and other IT positions

              • cm0002@lemmy.world
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                10 months ago

                Oh that’s probably why I never ran into it, I only do local accounts because fuck Microsoft online accounts lmao

                • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
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                  10 months ago

                  Yeah, I don’t use Microsoft online accounts, but “work or school accounts” come up in many jobs because Windows is still used by many companies. I want to get certified or such for Googles BS (edit: bullshit not fancy terms) just because so many companies hire for transitions from Microsoft to Google or vise versa. It shouldn’t be a hard transfer… But I don’t have the time or money at the moment, so the $1000 for the course for certs sounds like a pain… But the $70-75 an hour for remotely transferring their systems and supporting it sounds like it is worth it. If you know anyone with background on the Google side of it please let me know if the certification is a waste of time.

      • MonkderZweite@feddit.ch
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        10 months ago

        There’s literally an open source tool suite you can flash on a thumb drive, stick it in a sleeping notebook and get access to it. Sadly don’t find it anymore.

      • rdyoung@lemmy.world
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        10 months ago

        Do you know the wonder that is konboot? It works on every version of windows with old school offline accounts, it even works/worked on Linux and it leaves no trace.

        • Ephera@lemmy.mlEnglish
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          10 months ago

          I had not heard of it before. I would have just booted a Linux Live USB. So long as there’s no disk encryption, you can just access the hard drive in the laptop like any other data disk.

          Or in other words, I’m actually not even trained/informed about hacking. I just accidentally acquired this knowledge by installing Linux at some point. 🙃

      • JDubbleu@programming.dev
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        10 months ago

        Almost every personal computer that isn’t a MacBook is poorly secured due to the lack of filesystem encryption as a default. No one encrypts their data at rest, and as such you just have to pull their drive and read it with another computer. Hell, I don’t encrypt my entire file system despite being aware of this because of the inconvenience of added boot time, but everything that matters is encrypted and backed up across multiple devices.

        The best thing anyone can do is keep the amount of critical, digital data they have to a minimum, keep that data encrypted and backed up, and use a password manager properly. That alone makes it exceedingly unlikely you will ever be a victim of cybercrime solely because you’re more of a pain in the ass to compromise than 99.9% of the world.

        I personally have almost 10TB of data between all my systems, but of that maybe 10 MB is actually valuable to anyone but me.

        • PlatinumSf@pawb.social
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          10 months ago

          Pretty sure bitlocker is enabled by default since Windows 11 rolled, to my understanding it’s part of the reason they now require Microsoft accounts for device on boarding.

        • bitwolf@lemmy.one
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          10 months ago

          Windows encrypts by default now. I don’t know if any Linux distros do by default but it was certainly option for me to enable it at install time.

  • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    10 months ago

    Most of us older computer nerds and coders certainly tried to hack Facebook back in the 00’s. To answer Grandma’s question, no, we cannot.

    • cbarrick@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      10 months ago

      Back in undergrad, before Facebook went HTTPS only, I would setup “free wifi” and steal people’s cookies for shits and giggles. Use the cookies to authenticate with FB and send random messages to people.

      Looking back, I probably shouldn’t have been doing that. Definitely illegal.

      • SolarMech@slrpnk.net
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        10 months ago

        Looking back, I probably shouldn’t have been doing that. Definitely illegal.

        You know that stuff you post on lemmy is probably on databases everywhere for like, forever, right?

        • gaael@lemmy.world
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          10 months ago

          Who’s gonna press charges for the “hey mom, today I ate my poo” message they sent 10 years ago ?

        • cbarrick@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          10 months ago

          No one is going to press charges about me fucking around with their FB accounts 10 years ago.

      • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        10 months ago

        They were just barely starting to get serious about legislating cyber security, so you were only maybe breaking some laws. I remember in the 90’s it was a lawless land. There were no laws against hacking, or at least none that anyone understood, and most sites had terrible security. I gained access to someone’s Hotmail once just by trying “anon/anon” as a user/pass combo. I also used to gain access to e-commerce customer databases just by googling certain SQL strings. I’d poke around and then send the webmaster an email letting them know their site was vulnerable.

        • Sprokes@jlai.lu
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          10 months ago

          There isn’t a law against hacking but I am sure there are other applicable laws when you do harm while hacking.

          • chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            10 months ago

            There is, it’s called CFAA and is absurdly broad. Pretty much any time you

            knowingly accessed a computer without authorization

            it’s technically illegal.

            • kase@lemmy.world
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              10 months ago

              So you’re telling me every time I stole my sister’s phone and took goofy selfies with it?? Straight to jail???

              • chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                10 months ago

                Seems that way yeah. Naturally this sort of law is selectively enforced to nab whoever they have a problem with though so probably your sister doesn’t have the clout to bring you to justice.

  • archchan@lemmy.ml
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    10 months ago

    I’ve been asked by multiple people to hack the instagram of their ex/current SO

  • UnculturedSwine@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Had a random guy that I spoke to at a bar ask me if I could hack a university to forge a degree for him when I told him I work in IT. Even if I could do something like that, it seems like a really risky and unethical thing to do for some rando at a bar.