I’ve been on lemmy for over a year now, and I just realized I used to read all those HackerNews articles + their comments, I haven’t done that in probably 6 months because the discussion here has gotten much better. What’s changed for you with Lemmy over the last year?
Just got banned from !linuxsucks, got a feeling that’s nothing uncommon though, power tripping mod situation
Lol I didn’t even know this community existed. To be fair their description even states that moderation is heavy handed.
Edit: Pretty sure that’s a troll community or something? Every single post there is kinda crap and is being downvoted.
I’ve seen it from time to time, and after the initial “…Why…?” it had me wondering if it was trying to be some sort of Lemmy counterculture. Parody makes more sense, but if it’s sincere I just sort of feel bad.
Yeah, unfortunately it is, ended up blocking it now because if I can’t comment with my own experience with Linux when I relate to a meme. (even if the “meme” is followed by half-truths) Then its just a guy ranting about how Linux sucks and power tripping when someone comments.
It’s run by and for an absolute crank.
That guy is Poe’s law, embodied. Absolutely everyone thinks it’s a joke… at first.
Starting to see different people reposting stuff on similar communities, which reminds me a lot of that other site. Not a huge fan.
I’ve also started noticing people downvoting instead of engaging when they disagree with something as well, which is frustrating.
Hey dude, I just wanted to let you know there is an option in your settings so you don’t see upvotes or downvotes.
Lemmy (AFAIK) doesn’t even show you your total upvotes (karma… whatever it’s called) by default either. None of these imaginary points fucking matter.
So why don’t you do yourself a favor and uncheck these boxes and not give a fuck what others think about your comment.
I know I have.
(Lemmy is rad as fuck)
As for the reposting content, are you referring to cross posting? I’ve noticed people doing it to my posts.
I think it’s a good thing as maybe some people have lemmy.ml defederated and I still want people who use lemmy to have content so they stay and grow the federation.
Again, the points are made up and the updoots don’t matter. Peace.
Probably a solid idea - thanks for the suggestion.
Not sure how well it will work with my mobile app but I will look into it!
It’s not great, but at least downvotes barely affect anything other than visibility of top level comments on popular posts, and are easy to hide. Better that than people disagreeing using lazy insults and tired truisms.
I often think the place would be better with no downvotes.
If you think a post/comment is good, then upvote. If you think a post/comment is bad, then either get over it and move on or grow a pair and say why.
The freedom of expression means that you have to read/hear/see things that you might not like every now and again, but I’d much rather that than end up in another echo chamber.
I often think the place would be better with no downvotes.
I agree. Hate to mention the R-place, but some of the subs there that only allow upvotes are a generally more positive place.
When your post is downvoted, you’re sometimes left wondering why, and question yourself. That can lead to less engagement. Same can happen for disagreements of course, but at least then it’s clear what the problem is.
Hexbear.net is nice for this.
Hexbear.net and a few other instances disable downvoting for similar reasons you describe.
I’m fine with seeing things I don’t like or agree with if it is a fully formed thought, but I still think downvotes are a nice trap for lazy inarticulate people to feel like they are doing the equivalent of dropping a low effort flame comment while actually doing basically nothing. I have display of vote scores disabled and don’t have to know or think about the approval of people who are only voting, which is nice. If they had something to say that isn’t already fully communicated by the downvote button, maybe they would say it instead despite downvoting being an option.
Yep, downvotes are usually an “I don’t know how to counter what you’re saying but I don’t like it” button.
But what I’m saying is, they are good because they likely deter toxic thoughtless comments.
They also deter good comments that go against the grain for an instance. Labeling comments as “toxic” even if they are fine but controversial isn’t good. Such toxic comments can be reported and removed anyways.
From what I’ve heard, there are instances that don’t have downvotes. People should be able to vote how they want. Could you imagine… wanting to tell people how they can vote? I certainly cant.
Definitely seeing some people doing mass downvotes. By that, I mean they disagree so much with a person’s post that they then downvote other, unrelated posts by the same person.
I suspect I have a bit of an “anti-fan club” these days, I’ll have the sole downvote in threads for a benign opinion that goes along with the rest of the comments, but I don’t pay it any mind.
Given that this website has experienced the Reddit migration (I am one of those migrants), it has definitely started to feel a bit like Reddit, but it still differs in a lot of ways. There’s less bots, actually engaging conversations, actual content. To me, this website continues to capture the vibe of the early Web2 days of the internet in a way that Reddit clearly moved away from, definitely so that its executives can make more of them monies. It feels a bit nostalgic in a way, and that’s what I like about this website.
My participation has dropped a lot compared to when I only just joined. There is only so much us centric doomer content I can stomach, and Lemmy is so extremely political that it is impossible to just browse cat memes and have a good time. So I spend less time here I suppose.
I almost never see political content or cat memes. I think your experience comes down to your subscription list.
I just started filtering all of it
This is the way. I am happy to hear you are taking control of your lemmy experience.
It’s so much better! Filter, report, stand up, and block. I’m so done with people being unnecessarily rude and I immediately stop contact with them here. If it’s me I try to apologize. All that garbage should stay on reddit
I just block those that post that stuff. Lemmy is small enough that that works to a sufficient degree 👍 it’s a small group of prolific posters
Started to participate in discussion more and pleasantly surprised actual conversations happen and the comment section is not flooded with generic bot shit within minutes.
When I first came here, I was so jaded, with the expectation that every account was a bot or an asshole. Seeing the actual conversation among humans has been nice.
Absolutely. The jadedness coming off of reddit is real. Took me half a year to slowly start participating
Yeah, that’s something I really like about Lemmy. You can have actual conversations. On Reddit, on even an unpopular thread, any comment would be flooded by replies from other people. You couldn’t just talk with one person.
I don’t mind other people joining in, but reddit makes it impossible to do 1-on-1.
On Reddit, on even an unpopular thread, any comment would be flooded by replies from other people.
Lemmy really does give the feel of “early reddit” where it was small enough for real communities, where would recognize regulars and see them in multiple subs.
Agreed. Oftentimes I describe Lemmy as “reddit back in the day” whenever someone asks me wtf is Lemmy.
All of the “a vote for Kamala is a vote for genocide” spammers mysteriously disappeared
You shitlibs are still whining that leftists didn’t want to vote for your genocidal ghoul?
The liberals are desperate to blame anything and everything they can to justify not changing a single damn thing about the democratic party.
Because they know the blue conservatives won’t change. Their donors will not allow it.
“No, it’s the voters who are wrong”
I’m still here posting about the flaws of the voting system that gives us two shit options to choose from.
Are you working to replace First past the post voting in your state? Now is that so venerated time to push for these changes at the state and local level.
Don’t you care that your country men/women/and more are under represented by their options at the polls?
Upset over 3rd party voters? Best get back to passing electoral reform in your state then.
You wouldn’t tell people how to vote and then do nothing to fix the voting system that is the source of the problem would you?
Is this a joke? They didn’t leave, the election cycle did.
Wonder why? /s
Same reason people aren’t still discussing who will win Euro '24
The election ended, the Leftists are still here. What were you expecting to happen?
Idk if you maybe missed the news but the election ended. Like awhile ago.
I will
NEVER
log off!
I mean, the vote happened and she’s not running anymore, sooooooo not really a reason for them to keep talking about that issue?
Also, I remember a couple usernames from some of the most vocal and I just went and looked and it’s not like they up and deleted their accounts or stopped using Lemmy. They’re still active, so they didn’t “disappear.”
@queermunist@lemmy.ml was pretty loud about that opinion and they’re still here, for example.
I know reddit being flooded with bots for 10 years has made y’all jaded but real people with real opinions that differ from ours shockingly still exist.
0·4 months agothey’re still here
Her pronouns are she/her
Lemmy is teaching me things by accident.
Most recently; I’ve started learning media literacy and now I can see all the same manufactured consent and narrative shaping that exists in legacy media and social media like Facebook and reddit; but in .world and lemmee too
I will always link Masses, Elites, and Rebels: The Theory of “Brainwashing” when this subject comes up, haha.
My goodness, that was a roller coaster. Although I found it lacking in cohesiveness (I’m not sure that the evidence supports the conclusions), it’s certainly a thought-provoking article. Thanks for the link.
No problem!
I wish the .worlders & lemmee’s would open up a book to learn this for themselves.
Of course, there must always be tribalism.
Yea… 🫠
The hard truth is .world and .ee deserve to make their space exactly like reddit and/or facebook if that’s what they want.
They have their space, we have ours. The weekly feud posts at .world are hilarious. Desperate attempts to keep the barn doors closed so no one escapes to the better instances.
These sorts of people eventually show their hand and people will leave on their own. Most recently the Luigi related debacles.
Desperate attempts to keep the barn doors closed so no one escapes to the better instances.
i wonder if this is why .ee rose to prominence in user counts.
Lol
Your go to
Well, I’m here now. So there’s that.
You’re welcome. /s
The cell phone apps are a lot better nowadays. They look a lot better.
I’ve been posting more fedi content instead of just the popular links.
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Lemmy has become my main social media outlet. For better or worse, Lemmy’s just my kind of place. I’m off of all mainstream social media except LinkedIn, which I barely use, but keep around for work related reasons.
I do still peruse Reddit, mainly for TV shows and niche subjects I can’t find here. But I haven’t logged in or posted since the first major exodus over the API pricing, and have no plans of returning.
I do post on Mastodon from time to time, but the format is just too geared towards short form content, and ultimately just isn’t my cup of tea.
So yeah. I’m generally happy to be here with you all shooting the shit about politics, Linux, etc. Long live Lemmy!
Hey bud, you dropped this
Here’s one from me to help.
Getting a bit busier these days
It seems more active now. Which has been great!
More content and more comments. I basically only use mastodon and lemmy for my memes nowadays and as general social media.
I got banned from the Canada community and according to the mod log, it was for homophobia and bigotry.
That really rubs me the wrong way because I’ve never ever posted anything like that. I’ve been the subject of homophobic and bigotry based bullying my whole life and the only comment I posted on that topic there was an account of my first hand experience of being catfished on Grindr and then outed as bi on the towns facebook page and subjected to ridicule and harassment.
I believe you misunderstood why you were banned.
You were banned because of incivility and ableism. You were making derogatory comments about the mentally ill as though having a illness was a bad thing.
I can see why you were confused, as homophobia is also listed under rule 1.
Yeah. Lemmy’s biggest strength (decentralization) has also shown to be one of it’s biggest flaws when micro-managing admins/mods turn their instance into their own personal fiefdom, inflicting their “justice” broadly and without discernment. I’ve been banned more here in under 2 years than on reddit for over 13, almost exclusively for voting “wrong” according to what feedback I can find, which is a a seriously treacherous practice in communities like these. I have no real sense of loss over it, but I do worry the Lemmy-verse will end up with tons of siloed off instances instead of an interconnected community if it goes on unadressed.
I mean the nice thing about Lemmy is you can always create your own community, and if that’s not enough, your own instance.
It removes a bad mods ability to completely dominate, because there’s always an escape hatch for folks who are just done with their shit.
True, but when it’s a main community that pertains to your interests, it’s crappy to be banned from it for fictional reasons. Would be the same on any other social media site I guess. I find people here are more militant in their beliefs.
I mean the nice thing about Lemmy is you can always create your own community
You can do that on most platforms. It isn’t worth the effort unless you can pull users into your new community. That’s hard.
You don’t need any users to interact with other instances. A lot of people are in a instance of one person, themselves.
Are you still bound by the rules of individual instances, no matter if you agree with them or not? Yes.
If their rules upset you, consider blocking the entire instance/community.
Things I have been permanently banned for:
- Saying dragons aren’t real
- Referencing The Bee Movie
- Pointing out Kamala Harris was not the president
- Upvoting a comment
Admins and moderators of all stripes: you should be handing out three-day bans like candy. You can give people a month-long fuck-off time-out, and in the future, they will think twice. Even if it takes a few whacks. But all a one-step permanent ban does is chase people to new accounts. That’s why outright trolls do it - it’s not hard, and you don’t seem great at catching them. The experience for people who are merely wrong has to be better than for people who are actively malicious, or you will cease to see any difference between their behavior.
