• GiveOver@feddit.uk
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    23 hours ago

    I really don’t understand Americans and their racial stuff. Why white?

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      Best way I can explain American’s “fixation” on race is that our country’s history is based on the attempt to create a racist white utopia through law (slavery, ethnic cleansing, manifest destiny, segregation, Jim Crow, private prisons etc.).

      Many of the historical debates, protests, rebellions, riots, and wars we’ve had were largely surrounding the issue of racial equality. And… it never went away because racist white people have evolved their political tactics. They still want “the South to rise again”, they still want “to Make American Great Again”, they still want segregation, slavery, and woman subordination.

      You might be thinking, “it’s not that serious”, but the mere fact that America is becoming the de facto Nazi Regime of the West now says it all. Hitler was deeply inspired by America’s Jim Crow laws and used it as a platform to address “the Jewish Question”. But, White American’s racism didn’t just materialize out of nothing. It’s descendant of Western Imperialism and Colonialism that was being exported across the globe by Europeans who had finally come to a geopolitical status quo on their continent after checks notes thousands of years of fighting over whose nation and religion is better.

      TL;DR: American’s being fixated on race is just the next phase of geopolitical infighting that came after thousands of years of Europeans fixating on nationality and religion, both of which are becoming less relevant each day than one’s ethnic and cultural identity.

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        12 hours ago

        Oh, I know why they’re obsessed with race. What I don’t understand is why this meme can get upvoted and not discarded as racist. And I’m not crying about “wah racism against whites” I mean real racism.

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          Because it’s not really racist, is it? I don’t see how this meme contributes to the suffering or oppression of any white person. I suppose the meme can be taken in different ways. Some people are perceiving it as racist. Others are perceiving it as one of the admirable characteristics of white people.

          Something I’ve noticed about a lot of white people who do take offense to memes like this is that they simply do not like being made aware of their race at all, which is just not a reality most non-white people get to experience.

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            I said I’m not talking about racism against white people. I think it’s racist because the joke appears to be that white people have disposable income and like to travel and do adventurous things. So, to me, it’s saying non-white people don’t have money and don’t travel or do fun things. And I think that’s bad. I don’t feel like I’m doing backflips to get to this conclusion, I genuinely don’t understand how it’s not seen this way by everybody else.

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      17 hours ago

      after living in the US for some time i think i’m starting to get it…

      one thing about the life in the US that the hollywood movies don’t show you very well is that the country is extremely tribal. the stories of diversity or of outsiders building their american dream are almost pure fantasy - you don’t make it in america because of the environment but in spite of it.

      the way things work here is that you have to be a part of a group and you habe to stick with that group no matter what. because otherwise you are done. that’s why it is so hard for either democrats or republicans to admit when their politicians do even the most insane shit. that’s why people would rarher risk their kids lives rather than go against their peer group and vaccinate them. and that’s also why it is so important that the couple is “white” and not black, latino or (god forbid) mixed…

      racism, xenofobia, nationalism and mysoginy are just side effects of a society that is split into constantly competing groups that reserve all the benefits for their own members… constant positive and negative discrimination that forces everyone to fall in or be left behind and that is stoked by any entity interested in exploiting those fragmented groups more easily.

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        USA definitely is tribal but I have to say that Democrats do things when their politicians do something crazy. They resign over stuff that a Republican would just ignore. The Democrats have their issues but policing behavior isn’t one of them.

        Unless it’s tied to capital and power then senile people can rule even if that is in fact insane.

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      Americans (especially non white Americans) tend to speak very frankly about race in a way that can make Europeans uncomfortable. In this context “white” is simply meant to conjure an image of someone with disposable income.

      (See “black twitter”)

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        We’re not uncomfortable, we’re baffled at your fixation on race, and on skin colour specifically. In European countries, generally, mostly, there is no this weird racial tribalism. Some people are racist, for sure, and a bunch of institutional racism is still a thing, but it’s a bad thing and we understand it in this context.

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        21 hours ago

        It still just sounds racist to me. The joke is that black people are poor?

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          21 hours ago

          The joke is that white people are so pampered they have to find absolutely insane sounding activities to have fun, like throwing yourself out of perfectly good airplanes, diving in caves, or walking the longest road on earth.

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            And to do so relatively cluelessly with the optimism that it will all work out fine because American, white, and money. Instagramming selfies with their kidnappers kinda thing.

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            20 hours ago

            Those things sound fun, why are they bad? Do non white people not do those activities?

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              They are all hazardous to your health. Never said they were bad. I dunno. I don’t do any of them, except I threw myself out of perfectly good planes in the military and there were plenty of not white people there.

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                I threw myself out of perfectly good planes in the military and there were plenty of not white people there

                That’s the difference between paying to jump out of a plane vs being paid to jump out of a plane

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          It’s is racist. White people are the only people it’s politically acceptable to be racist about.

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            racism requires a power structure to be historically against the oppressed. you cannot be racist against white people. you can be prejudiced, and I suppose you could make some argument that the above is prejudiced if you tried really hard, but calling it racism disregards the basis of what racism is

            edit: for people down voting, please go read some books, take a class from your local community college, or just talk to your neighbors. this statement isn’t meant to be decisive, nor would it be in any race and diversity class.

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              Racism is prejudice based on race. The addition of a power structure was added to make racism against Whites more palatable. It’s a mix of denial and rationalization. And it’s racist as hell.

              Edit: I assume you also think it’s impossible to be sexist against men? Or heterophobic against straight people? All this is is an attempt to whitewash racism against people who look like the people doing the oppressing. It’s a generalization based on race, which is—by definition—racist. Why not direct your anger at the incredibly tiny group of people actually creating the power structures of the world, rather than funneling it into useless and hypocritical counter-racism?

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              So a white Zimbabwean can say the most vile racist slurs against black people because white people were oppressed in Zimbabwe…

              Interesting paradigme…

              But the problem is that the internet is not one country with one history.

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                They are talking about America. You need to always assume they’re talking about America, other countries don’t really exist.

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              Prejudice is a broader term that include race among other factors.

              Power is not necessary to be racist. My neighbor is super racist but has absolutely no power.

              Power is part of the equation as a multipier. It creates greater negative impact.

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                your neighbor may not have individual power, but his statements still carry more weight than the opposite. there’s a reason (most) white people would never dream of saying the n word, and that there’s no equivalent for the other way around, and it’s because there’s an inherent power dynamic baked into that word and its origins

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                  I agree with you, but I’m not arguing about the relative weight/ power/emotional damage etc. of one racist word against another. Those words are still racist independently of who holds the power.

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                  Please go to another country and experience the exact opposite. In South Africa the EFF political party publicly chants to kill all white people.

                  “I will only be offended if a white person says the n-word” - so you are an absolute racist…

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              That’s like saying using deadly violence in self defense isn’t killing because it’s self defense, not attacking. But it is still killing, just a form that’s treated differently.

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      I think it has to do with the very high number of “van life” vloggers who overwhelmingly seem to be white American couples. Google van life vloggers and take a look at the image results.

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      That ain’t the longest road you can squiggle down the alleys in the cities. The longest road probably has like 3/4 of the distance just moving down the roads in the cities in a zig zag pattern.

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        Worse. You would be walking in a circular pattern approaching the center whilst’d skipping every other intersection. Then you would proceed outwards on the roads you skipped initially. Do that in every city you encounter.

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      That whole middle east area is getting fucked by Israel. They will target you for fun, regardless of skin color.

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        Oh please, stop playing the victim you pathetic cunt! Everyone knows that there’s no moral difference between Israel and its neighbours. The only difference is who’s got the bigger guns.

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        That’s why I’m going backwards from Magadan to Cape Town! See you at the end losers!!! /S

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    I got curious. The map/path is real.

    BUT

    The map begins and ends pretty arbitrarily. Both roads keep going before and beyond those points.

    It assumes a ferry ride across the Suez canal (although there is seemingly a new-ish floating bridge that allows pedestrians to cross the canal, but it is only floated out at certain times (and maybe doesn’t exist anymore after a boat collision incident?))

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    In the very loose meaning of “can walk”. This road crosses several dangerous areas for multiple reasons, from war and jungles, to deserts and tundra, not to mention all the visas you’d need.

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      • V * X = km per day
      • 22387 / (V * X) = number of days needed
      • 22387 / (V * X * 365) = number of years

      Walking 8 hrs a day, at a leisurely 7 km/hr, can do it in about a year.

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    You can see their shadows wandering off somewhere, they won’t make it home, but they really don’t care…

    Could it be a Fastball reference…? Hmm…